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		<title>By: Kwana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kwana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Carolyn. So much good advice here. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Carolyn. So much good advice here. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Jewel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Jewel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@heidenkind, you&#039;re exactly right. There will always be one or two students (for lack of a better word) who are so passionate that they just naturally work and learn hard.

There&#039;s the recent theory that one needs 10,000 hours of study to become expert at something. According to this research, the people who go on to excel in a sport or art aren&#039;t necessarily more talented than that ones who didn&#039;t. What they did was work harder at it. More hours spent at the sport, or practice. To me, this seems rather obvious, particularly once it&#039;s be pointed out.

@Robin: Teaching a subject can definitely make you learn even more thoroughly! And like you, I enjoy reading favorite authors and seeing their voices mature and improve.

@Karin Tabke: Hey there! Thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@heidenkind, you&#8217;re exactly right. There will always be one or two students (for lack of a better word) who are so passionate that they just naturally work and learn hard.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the recent theory that one needs 10,000 hours of study to become expert at something. According to this research, the people who go on to excel in a sport or art aren&#8217;t necessarily more talented than that ones who didn&#8217;t. What they did was work harder at it. More hours spent at the sport, or practice. To me, this seems rather obvious, particularly once it&#8217;s be pointed out.</p>
<p>@Robin: Teaching a subject can definitely make you learn even more thoroughly! And like you, I enjoy reading favorite authors and seeing their voices mature and improve.</p>
<p>@Karin Tabke: Hey there! Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Karin Tabke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karin Tabke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabo blog, Carolyn!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabo blog, Carolyn!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you here and hope this post gets lots of attention. Some of my favorite authors are those whose writing has clearly evolved and grown stronger over the course of their books. It&#039;s obvious that they&#039;re learning how to use their voice and their storytelling skills more effectively and it&#039;s such a joy to see it happen, to be able to read those books where everything comes together so beautifully.

Although I am not a fiction writer, I did not really start learning to write until graduate school, until I was teaching writing, actually.  At that point my own work demanded that I get better, that I take what had always gotten me by -- a strong, distinctive voice and a few good insights here and there -- and work it, shape it, and tame it so that I could express myself more effectively.  

I had always considered myself a good writer, but I really didn&#039;t know what that meant until I *finally learned* how to write well, or at least better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you here and hope this post gets lots of attention. Some of my favorite authors are those whose writing has clearly evolved and grown stronger over the course of their books. It&#8217;s obvious that they&#8217;re learning how to use their voice and their storytelling skills more effectively and it&#8217;s such a joy to see it happen, to be able to read those books where everything comes together so beautifully.</p>
<p>Although I am not a fiction writer, I did not really start learning to write until graduate school, until I was teaching writing, actually.  At that point my own work demanded that I get better, that I take what had always gotten me by &#8212; a strong, distinctive voice and a few good insights here and there &#8212; and work it, shape it, and tame it so that I could express myself more effectively.  </p>
<p>I had always considered myself a good writer, but I really didn&#8217;t know what that meant until I *finally learned* how to write well, or at least better.</p>
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		<title>By: heidenkind</title>
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		<dc:creator>heidenkind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I think that&#039;s really true of almost anything--yes it can be taught, but no one is going to learn anything unless they apply themselves to it.

I would have been so tempted to start that essay with, &quot;I am Ishmael.&quot; :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I think that&#8217;s really true of almost anything&#8211;yes it can be taught, but no one is going to learn anything unless they apply themselves to it.</p>
<p>I would have been so tempted to start that essay with, &#8220;I am Ishmael.&#8221; <img src='http://magicalmusings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Jewel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Jewel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the kind words!

And thanks for all the thoughtful responses, too.

I get so bothered by suggestions that Writing can&#039;t be taught when the situation is actually far more complex than that. I believe it can be but that really fine writing/storytelling, of the kind that gets you published requires a writer to work at it.

When I was in college, I&#039;d tested out of all but one English requirement, so I enrolled in an upper division writing class in which the TA said we were to write our papers without using the verb To Be. I was completely baffled by this and when I asked the TA how we were to do that, he just smirked at me. Seriously. That was the extent of his explanation. A smirk. It was years, literally, before I understood what he wanted. And trust me over those years I thought about it a lot. For me, a single example would have sufficed. 

Eventually, I did figure it out and was (as you can tell) hopping mad at that TA for his teaching failure. And I do consider that a teaching failure. I did eventually learn it myself.

I have since had some truly stellar teachers, either actual teachers or other writers. 

But my writing wasn&#039;t where it needed to be until I committed a significant portion of time to my own learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the kind words!</p>
<p>And thanks for all the thoughtful responses, too.</p>
<p>I get so bothered by suggestions that Writing can&#8217;t be taught when the situation is actually far more complex than that. I believe it can be but that really fine writing/storytelling, of the kind that gets you published requires a writer to work at it.</p>
<p>When I was in college, I&#8217;d tested out of all but one English requirement, so I enrolled in an upper division writing class in which the TA said we were to write our papers without using the verb To Be. I was completely baffled by this and when I asked the TA how we were to do that, he just smirked at me. Seriously. That was the extent of his explanation. A smirk. It was years, literally, before I understood what he wanted. And trust me over those years I thought about it a lot. For me, a single example would have sufficed. </p>
<p>Eventually, I did figure it out and was (as you can tell) hopping mad at that TA for his teaching failure. And I do consider that a teaching failure. I did eventually learn it myself.</p>
<p>I have since had some truly stellar teachers, either actual teachers or other writers. </p>
<p>But my writing wasn&#8217;t where it needed to be until I committed a significant portion of time to my own learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Amie Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amie Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Carolyn!! I&#039;m definitely the type who learns by doing (and did better in school by writing stuff down!!! so I was a heavy note-taker).  I think it&#039;s stood me in good stead as far as honing my writing skills :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Carolyn!! I&#8217;m definitely the type who learns by doing (and did better in school by writing stuff down!!! so I was a heavy note-taker).  I think it&#8217;s stood me in good stead as far as honing my writing skills <img src='http://magicalmusings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shari Anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shari Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant, Carolyn. Everyone learning to write should read those last 7 paragraphs over and over and over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, Carolyn. Everyone learning to write should read those last 7 paragraphs over and over and over.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn, you already know what a great blog I think this is. I&#039;ve always thought writing really about doing. By all means find out the ways other people do it, and see if that fits comfortably with you, most definitely look into craft books, but write, write, write is the key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn, you already know what a great blog I think this is. I&#8217;ve always thought writing really about doing. By all means find out the ways other people do it, and see if that fits comfortably with you, most definitely look into craft books, but write, write, write is the key.</p>
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		<title>By: LaDonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn, so happy to have you at Magical! And I agree, writing is a personal journey and no one can do the work for a writer. The time spent on craft pretty much says it all. For me, I learned by doing. I&#039;ve also encountered special people along the way that have enriched my journey. It&#039;s all good! :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn, so happy to have you at Magical! And I agree, writing is a personal journey and no one can do the work for a writer. The time spent on craft pretty much says it all. For me, I learned by doing. I&#8217;ve also encountered special people along the way that have enriched my journey. It&#8217;s all good! <img src='http://magicalmusings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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